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Stop Attacking "Theists" Stamp by JamesE82 Stop Attacking "Theists" Stamp by JamesE82
So there I was, minding my own business, trying to hold to the pledge to keep political discourse to a minimum for a while, when out of the blue I receive a comment from a woman who was, um… unhappy is how I’ll put it. She was unhappy, and being… oh, how shall I put this… difficult. Yes, that is the most polite way to say it; she was being a difficult woman, who was unhappy at me. She was unhappy and felt the need to be difficult because of comments I made two months ago on someone else’s page, where I showed my support for the page owner’s posting of a pro-Christmas picture. A pro-Christmas picture in December, it seems, made this difficult woman unhappy, and she felt the need to let me know about it. While doing so she did what liberals usually do, which is to assume they know Christianity better than Christians do, accuse me of having the negative qualities that she herself was displaying, deny that America was founded on Christian principles, etc. There was nothing new in her outrage that my support of Christmas caused in her, and I considered showing her comment the attention it deserved by not responding, but one particular word she used got me thinking…

Theist. Why is it, I wondered, that she was using that term while discussing a Christian holiday, on a posting made by a Christian, and while talking to a Christian? Seems that an awful lot of people who become outraged by things like Christmas, the Ten Commandments, the Pledge of Allegiance, roadside crosses to mark fatal crash sites, and so on, rant about theists. Why do they do that, when they are clearly angered at displays of Christianity? Why not just come out and say they hate the religion that has sparked their outrage and disgust? Why not have the guts to just come out and say it? When I’m talking about 9/11, I don’t blame “theists” for the terrorist attack, after all. :confused:

It is also worth noting that when called on it, these people will say that they hate all people of faith (and state it like they deserve a medal for doing so). Really? That is not, in my experience, the case. “Theist” haters will come up with pictures of lions eating Christians and say they are funny, but where are the “funny” pictures of Jews being gassed and thrown into Nazi ovens, or Buddhist monks on fire? They’ll draw every blasphemous depiction of Christ they can imagine, but where are the allegedly humorous cartoons of Anne Frank being murdered, or Muslim women being stoned to death, or Tibetan Buddhist nuns being raped? If they actually do hate all theists, then shouldn’t these things be just as amusing to them as the crucifixion of Jesus?

:shrug: So I made a stamp. Not a very special stamp, but there you go. We all suffer from selective outrage, I suppose, and this deviation is about that: in this case, the hatred liberals have for Christianity over all other religions, and their bizarre (cowardly?) penchant for denying it. I’ll preemptively say that fine, not all liberals hate Jesus, that some enlightened people really do despise all forms of faith, and so on. I’m not seeking confrontation in posting this, but as it was spawned from a confrontation caused by my defense of my faith, I suppose I should expect some. Again, :shrug:.

If anybody actually wants to use this stamp, please do, but also tell me so I can give you a :highfive:.
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:iconrayishafluffychicken:
rayishafluffychicken Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Student Digital Artist
Yes, you read my mind. But when you have Christian friends, you hate them secretly, right?
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lNSECTUS Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2014  New member Student Traditional Artist
you said it. i hate christians so fuckin much but every other religion is okay in my book
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
You hate Christians but not any other religion? I find that slightly hypocritical. XD
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lNSECTUS Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014  New member Student Traditional Artist
how is that hypocritical? im not anti religion, i just hate christianity. i also hate atheism so i guess i kinda lied about only hatin christians, my bad. i never said i was anti religion because i am not, theres no reason for me to say that i am. people who share my opinions shouldnt say that either it just makes no sense (which is why i slightly agree with this stamp)
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
It's because I don't see people discriminate one religion completely from all others. Besides, Christianity has many different branches. Catholic being the largest. I don't like devout Catholics who shove their beliefs at people.
Oh, you half lied? Lol, it's useful sometimes. xD
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MetallicGirl Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Professional Writer
I feel really dumb for saying this, but I would use it except I still haven't figured out how to put stamps on my page (if anybody knows please tell me)! I wish my religion didn't have to be hated because of things some radical Christians do, ignoring those "normal" believers.
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JamesE82 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2014

That’s not a dumb question; I had to ask someone at work how to do it. =D Go to the right hand side of the page and look below where the details are shown about this piece, and you will see a box labeled Thumb. In that box is : thumb196162914 :, minus the spaces between the colons and the text between them. Copy and paste that information and you will get Stop Attacking "Theists" Stamp by JamesE82 .

Last I heard, you had to be a paying member of the site to put thumbnails in comments, but you should be able to put them anywhere else. :thumbsup:


Thanks for taking the time to give me some positive feedback, and stay strong in your faith.

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MetallicGirl Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2014  Professional Writer
Aww thank you :) I figured out how to do it, actually, I have like 100 stamps on my page now :roll: and I actually am a paying member, so it doesn't really matter. Now I can put this stamp in my collection, too.
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ChakatBlackstar Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014
Is there a stamp for Christian's persecution complex?
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Briannabater Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Professional Photographer
^ This
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Nope, what we need is a "people being blind to Christian persecution" stamp
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ChakatBlackstar Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014
Oh there's christian persecution...just not in the US, or most civilized countries. American Christians tend to jump at the slightest thing. "Oh no, gays are getting married and that's persecution against us" or "oh no, we can't put up the ten commandments in city hall and that means we're being persecuted!"

Every time they find they're loosing a little bit of influence, Christians start complaining that they're being persecuted, even though their religion has influenced US domestic policy for over 200 years, sometimes to unconstitutional degrees. But you start taking away their power, power they shouldn't have had in the first place, and suddenly they act like you're killing their dog or something. American christans wouldn't know REAL persecution if it bit them in the ass.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That is very true, a lot of idiot Christians like to abuse the first amendment and try to force the Bible into schools and other places where it should not be forced into. I am a Christian and I don't think the Bible should be taught in schools and I am happy to support gay marriage (as long as the love between the couple is sincere).

Something important to note however is that there is still persecution of a sort, Christians are horribly stereotyped and people will apply these stereotypes to the nicer and more open-minded Christians. A lot Christians are bullied and are called homophobes right off the bat and are screamed at for forcing their beliefs on other when they haven't done anything like what. Not to mention Christians, like other religious folk, in the fields of science are often looked down upon and derided simply because of their faith.

I fully agree with your comment and I applaud you for saying it, I just want to point out that there is still persecution of Christians in the US. While it isn't any near as horrible as what happens to those poor Christians in other countries, it is just as wrong and it is the kind that the stamp is talking about: bullying and stereotyping.
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Silversepiroth Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014
I would like to preface my point by saying that I am a Libertarian Christian.

With that being said, I feel like it should be up to the churches and other religious bodies should be allowed to decide who they will and will not marry. Marriage started with religion, it should stay there. Any and all tax breaks/hikes created by marriage should be cancelled, and if they really want to, the state level government can allow civil unions with the primary guidlines being that there can't be multiple ones attached to a single person of either gender (unless their planning on getting rid of polygamy laws) and if either member is suspected of abuse.

Secondly, I have no issues with Christianity and religion not being taught in schools. According to the Bible anyway (I don't know about other schools of thought,) it is the parent's responsibility to teach children how they should act anyway. What I take issue with is expelling a four year old because she prayed at lunch while allowing a Muslim child to carry a knife into school (that actually happened, look it up.) If you don't want religion in school, that's fine. What gets under my skin is allowing one to be raised to such a high (and somewhat falsified) standard, while all others are banished from even being discussed in school unless it's for the sake of gut punching said religion.

Lastly, do you want to know WHY Christian ideology has shaped domestic policy? It's because our Constitution is founded on it. Even the people who were fiercely against the very idea of God realized that the Bible provided a decent guideline on how not to dick over others while not letting the future government dick over the people (doesn't work very well if the government just ignores the Constitution, but C'est la vie.) THAT BEING SAID, I can safely say that I personally have not seen any of these cries of persecution in my life. Calls of being treated unfairly? Yes. But life isn't fair, it's about making your position known, having a reason for it, and standing your ground. 

Aaaand, now that I've gotten people on just about every other side undoubtedly upset at me, I'm going to shut up now.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconclapplz:

Amen
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Silversepiroth Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2014
I mean, if you look back realistically at history, the whole reason government got involved in marriage in the first place was because of race. It was to prevent the "cross-breeding" of the skin colors. We have developed well beyond it, so at this point the only reason it still has a hand in marriage anymore is because it's another way to maintain control. 

The church kept marriage licenses and mortician reports before then. If people are going to be buried on land owned by the church anyway, why not allow them to maintain it again? The Federal Government has its fingers in affairs that it was never intended to have them in. Our government was designed only to mediate in international affairs, protect our ability to live (e.g. make sure water and food isn't poisoned in some way or another,) and, in the occasional matter, dispense justice, but even that was only in extreme cases. 

Going back to the whole tax cuts thing, did you know that under our Constitution, income tax is illegal? Yup, the only thing government was supposed to get its money from was export taxes and the like. Of course, our Founding Fathers never thought that the government would get so large, or create programs that relied on forcing people to pay for them to survive, like Medicare. Our Founding Fathers expected us to be charitable to one another, and it would've sorted itself out. Interesting fact about government programs, for every dollar private companies make, 70% of it goes to charity. Only 30% of that same dollar given to government actually goes to those programs that would help people. The American people are by and large the most charitable people on the planet. We cannot, however, afford to be charitable when our government taxes the ground beneath our feet, charges us twice to get food, and even takes a part of the money that we earned with the sweat off of our brow.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Governments: we can't live without them, but it would be nice if we could
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MuteKrocodil Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Well Christianity is one of the most,if not the most,popular and dangerous religion out there.
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Chiminix Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Because beheading journalists and infidels and crashing passenger planes into crowded buildings is nothing compared to refusing a gay couple cake.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
And if you believe this your a total moron
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LookAtMyLittlePoneh Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Atheist and Leftie here. I won't attack anyone unless they attack my right to talk about atheism  and/or start slandering me and claiming I obviously have no morals and can go around killing people as I please with no remorse whatsoever. Worst argument ever because the fact that I don't believe in a deity proves close to nothing about my actual character/actions.

I think that people trying to censor religion is just as silly as trying to censor people like me, (I'd NEVER go full mouth-foaming rant on someone saying Merry Christmas to me, so stupid lol) so you do have a point. However people tend to badmouth Christians when they bash a belief system I think because people in that religion are unfortunate enough to be involved in the most popular religion at this time, so it's bound to be the scapegoat as annoying as it is. It's easy for people. Also I've noticed that there's a lot of Atheists (like moi) who have come from Christian backgrounds, so some of them tend to be bitter towards anything Christian (usually the new ones).
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fightking Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I hate no man for the god he worships. I hate the man who thinks all need worship his god.
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Panhead13 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014  Student General Artist
Le gasp? You had the gall to support Christmas during the holiday season? For shame!

Anyway, sarcasm mode aside, it's true. Christians seem to get all the flak. You never see skeptics try to prove Mohammed wrong. They just try to deface Christ.
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WarriorOfArt-1141 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Also, Christmas is a national holiday, and also a Christian holiday.  If you're going to declare that a national holiday, then you should make Chinese New Year, St. Patty's Day (Idk if it is already), Lohri, Japanese New Year, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Cinco de Mayo, etc. a national holiday too!  I mean, isn't America a representation of diversity?
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
As a Christian, I must say that Christmas is technically not a Christian holiday. Many would argue against this fact, but in the end it is just a pagan holiday with some elements altered and some things added, considering it is the holiday of peace and good will Christians thought it would work as a placeholder of the birthday of Jesus Christ. I doubt Jesus was born on December 25th (though given God's sense of humor, I would also not be surprised if it really was when Jesus was born), its just the time Christians chose as a time to celebrate Him and the blessings God has given us.

A lot Christians forget this and end up getting their dogmas mixed up. For me, my family, and my friends that share my belief Christmas isn't a Christian holiday, but the event we happen to be celebrating certainly is.

Btw, St. Patrick's day, Hanuhkkah, and Kwanzaa have been accepted as national holidays. Sadlt though, the latter two tend to get completely overshadowed by Christmas
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blackstrike Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2014  Professional Photographer
Funny, no answers to your, quite valid, questions. Apparently, christians only answer those questions where they can bullshit their answers.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
For some yes, for others they have real answers but see no need to risk a flame war
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blackstrike Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Professional Photographer
*cough*bullshit!*cough*
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:iconcorvus-the-snark:
Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I told the whole-hearted truth, you don't have to accept it

... I need to start saying that more often to Atheists, that way I can avoid pointless arguments that last several posts
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WarriorOfArt-1141 Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Agreed 😆
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WarriorOfArt-1141 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Well, I'm Buddhist, and I know where she is coming from.  It's just ironic that the USA, the Melting Pot, a place of diversity, doesn't represent any religion except for Christianity in its national anthem, pledge of allegiance, and other stuff like that.  Does that make more sense now?

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Artezna Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Christianity is not the USA's religion, but it was based on Christian principals. God being in the pledge or us putting our hand on the Bible has nothing to do with forcing religion, our beliefs were formed under "God's principal" and under Biblical ideas, so we are really just acknowledging where our morals come from. We're swearing our allegiance or promising to tell the truth under the principals this country was formed from. That's all it is. If our nation was founded by Buddhist principals and we pledged "One nation united by Buddha" would it change anything? It shouldn't. Anyways, if this nation really was Christian or stuck to the principals it was founded on, it wouldn't be in the state of chaos it is now. That's the thing; a nation under God alone would never collapse. Why do you think everyone hates Israel? You better hope they don't take out God completely in this country or we'll all be screwed. 
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WarriorOfArt-1141 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Student General Artist
I get what you're saying, thanks for clearing that up. :)
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
How does the national anthem and pledge of allegiance favor Christianity? They simply reference God, which covers all monotheistic religions.
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WarriorOfArt-1141 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014  Student General Artist
Monotheistic religions are not the only religions that exist.  I am Chinese Buddhist, which is a polytheistic religion.  Hinduism is also a polytheistic religion.  It is unfair to the polytheists out there.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually its still fair, just interpret God as your favorite deity in your pantheon
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WarriorOfArt-1141 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Student General Artist
What are you talking about, a "favorite deity"?  They're all GODS and are expected to be respected equally.  Are you kidding me?
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes

I apologize for not making it clear I was joking
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WarriorOfArt-1141 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Student General Artist
Thank you...I guess.

But do you know what I don't get?  Why were Christian principles intertwined into the founding of the US, if one reason the US was being established was for religious freedom?  Wouldn't they have considered other religions?
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Christianity is a tolerant and accepting religion so establishing a country with its dogmas is actually a very good idea.

The problem is most people forget this fact, including most Christians who just do what they want with the scripture without understanding it.
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blackstrike Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Professional Photographer
Hate? No, we don't hate Christians or any other religious group. We just think that you're...intellectually challenged and we try to explain you where you're wrong. I mean, what did you expect? You would do the same thing if somebody walked to you and started to tell you how you should be following Zeus / Jupiter / Odin etc. For us atheists, it isn't a question whose god is real and who is right. We know none of you theists are. So, there you go. No hate, just occasional irritation at your persistence to believe in silly stories written by shepherds several thousand years ago and stolen from those who had religion hundreds and even thousands of years before your shepherds even existed. Feeling better?
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Don't say you represent all atheists, because there's a big majority of atheists that would disagree with your whole comment.
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blackstrike Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014  Professional Photographer
Sure, keep telling yourself that.
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
You're not a true atheist.
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blackstrike Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014  Professional Photographer
k.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Stop using the royal we and us, it makes you look silly
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Artezna Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
FB Like for MSN 
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blackstrike Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Professional Photographer
You need to learn the difference between so called "royal we" and speaking in the name of the whole group. It makes you look silly.
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Corvus-the-Snark Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Then stop trying to act like all atheists are like you, most of them are no better than the religious nuts and fanatics me and my fellow Christians have to be associate with
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ZacharyTC Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Theists, or just Christians? Pick one.
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